Einige von Euch werden in Süditalien werden?

[giagiox]

Einige von Euch werden in Süditalien werden?

Grüße an alle Teilnehmer dieses wunderbare Forum.
Sorry für die schlechte Übersetzung, aber ich weiß sehr wenig über die Sprachen, die ich benutzt Google Translate.
Ich bin ein junger italienischer Amateur-und Fahranfänger, aufgrund einer sehr knappen Budget Ich fing an, den Himmel mit den Instrumenten sehr billig (Lidl Bresser 10x50 aus einem Stativ und Chinesisch getroffen zu erkunden).
Auf vielen Foren gelesen, dass ich einen anderen wirtschaftlichen Lidl Fernglas vor allem sehr gut zu beginnen ist. Dies ist die BOB OPTIK 10-30x60 (die anscheinend speichert Lidl in Deutschland ist immer verfügbar) http://www.lidl-shop.de/de/Hobby-und-Freizeit/BOB-OPTIK-Fernglas-10-30-x-60?et_cid=15&et_lid=193743

Leider haben wir hier nicht für den Verkauf und die Website Lidl.de nicht verkaufen in Italien.
Aus diesem Grund wollte ich wissen, wenn einige Amateur-deutschen Freund plant in den kommenden Wochen kommen, in Süditalien (vor allem im südlichen Apulien, in der Nähe von Lecce).
Wer, frage ich die ungeheure Gunst kauf mir einen Bob Optik 10-30x60 Fernglas in einem Geschäft Lidl (vielleicht Integritätsprüfung und Kollimation).
Natürlich, einmal in Italien, würde er unverzüglich erstatten den Preis zusätzlich zu meiner ewigen Dankbarkeit bezahlt.
Verzeihen Sie meine Anfrage, aber wenn das Geld knapp ist und die Liebe so ist, versuchen wir alle möglichen Lösungen.
Einen herzlichen Gruß an alle

Gianni


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[ENGLISH]

Some of you will be in south of Italy?

Greetings to all participants of this wonderful forum.
Sorry for the bad translation, but I know very little about the languages, so I used Google Translate.
I am a young Italian amateur novice and, due to a very limited budget, I started exploring the sky with instruments very cheap (Bresser 10x50 taken from Lidl and a Chinese tripod).
On many forums I read that another economic Lidl binoculars is very good especially to start. This is the BOB OPTIK 10-30x60 (which apparently in German Lidl stores is always available) http://www.lidl-shop.de/de/Hobby-und-Freizeit/BOB-OPTIK-Fernglas-10-30-x-60?et_cid=15&et_lid=193743

Unfortunately, in Italy is not for sale and the site Lidl.de not sell in Italy.
For this reason, I wanted to know if some amateur German friend is planning to come (in the coming weeks) in south of Italy (particularly in southern Puglia, near Lecce).
If anyone, I ask the immense favor to buy me a Bob Optik 10-30x60 binoculars at a Lidl store (maybe checking integrity and collimation).
Of course, once in Italy, he would immediately refund the price paid in addition to my eternal gratitude.
Forgive my request, but when money is short and love is so, we try all possible solutions.
A cordial greeting to all

Gianni


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[ITALIANO]

Qualcuno di voi verrà nel sud dell’Italia?

Un saluto a tutti i partecipanti di questo bellissimo forum.
Scusate la pessima traduzione, ma conosco molto poco le lingue e ho usato Google Translate.
Sono un giovane italiano astrofilo novellino e, a causa di un budget molto limitato, ho iniziato a esplorare il cielo con strumenti molto economici (Bresser 10x50 preso da Lidl e un cavalletto cinese).
Su molti forum ho letto che un altro binocolo economico di Lidl è molto buono soprattutto per iniziare. Si tratta del BOB OPTIK 10-30x60 (che a quanto pare nei negozi Lidl tedeschi si trova sempre) http://www.lidl-shop.de/de/Hobby-und-Freizeit/BOB-OPTIK-Fernglas-10-30-x-60?et_cid=15&et_lid=193743

Purtroppo, qui da noi non è in vendita e il sito Lidl.de non effettua vendite in Italia.
Per questo motivo, volevo sapere se qualche amico astrofilo tedesco ha in programma di venire, nelle prossime settimane, nel sud dell’Italia (in particolare, nel sud della Puglia, in provincia di Lecce).
Se c’è qualcuno, vorrei chiedergli l’immenso favore di comprare per me un binocolo Bob Optik 10-30x60 presso un punto vendita Lidl (controllandone magari integrità e collimazione).
Naturalmente, una volta in Italia, avrebbe subito il rimborso del prezzo pagato oltre alla mia eterna gratitudine.
Perdonate questa mia richiesta, ma quando i soldi sono pochi e la passione è tanta, si provano tutte le soluzioni possibili.
Un cordiale saluto a tutti

Gianni

 

[thommy_l]

Hallo,

GoogleTranslate zeigt wieder mal wie es nicht geht! Leider kann ich den "übersetzten" Text nicht sinnvoll lesen.

 

[Andreas-TAL]

Hello Gianni!
Greetings from Germany!
First of all:
The shown article "BOB OPTIK 10-30x60" is part of the "lidl-shop" and only offered in the lidl-internet-shop. It´s not offered in the lidl stores. So checking the optics wouldn´t be possible.
Second:
Each order in the lidl-shop will cost 3,95€ shipping - you have to add this to the price.
Third:
You really need someone who will "deliver" the bino to you. I´m sorry - unfortunately I wount travel to italy the next time . Buying in Germany and "private shipping" to italy would cause additional shipping costs: 15-18€.

I hope you will find someone. But on the other side: I´am not an expert in binoculars, but I think for this price you can´t expect really quality. So my advice would be: Try to buy (with your limited buget - may be max. 50€) in Italy. Only there you´ll have the chance to look through and to see what you´ll get for your money.
The most expensive optics are these you have to buy twice, cause your are not satisfied.

Best regards
Andreas

 

[giagiox]

Ich bin wirklich sehr leid
Ich entschuldige mich, wenn ich "dirty" dieses schöne forum mit dem Text unleserlich sind.
Ich hoffe, die englische Übersetzung kann nützlicher sein...


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I am really very sorry
Please excuse if I have "dirty" this fine forum with illegible text.
I hope the English translation may be more useful...

 

[Andreas-TAL]

Hi Gianni!
Don´t worry - everything is OK.
There exist many way´s of friendly and helpful communication between good willing people. Sometimes you have to read a little bit "between the lines" ... thats all.
Of course no one would be impressed by the google-translation. All the more I´am impressed of your courage an energy to make this efforts. I think many other members feel the same.
Regards
Andreas

 

[giagiox]

Hello Andreas! Thanks for the welcome.
I was convinced that, in Germany, the products sold by Lidl are easily found even in stores. But I probably gave wrong informations.

I know that this isn’t the best binocular, but many people have told me that it is good to start. When I have a bigger budget, I'll try to buy something better ;-)

I thank you anyway for your kindness and I wish you a good trip to Italy!

 

[Andreas-TAL]

Hello Gianni!
Welcome too ... :huhu:
The only offer I can make is ordering the Bino from Lidl by myself, checking the mechanical integrity and then sending it to your address in Italy. But this would rise the price up to approx. 40€. No good deal anymore, I think...
Greetings
Andreas

And last but not least. Just have a look:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BOB-Optik-BINOCULARS-Zoom-10-30-x-60-Cased-/380239226706

 

[giagiox]

Dear Andreas, you're really very kind and I thank you very much for your availability.

I know the ebay offer that you've reported me, but some of my friends told me to avoid to buy by mail order used optical material (especially when it isn't good even when it is new, like this binoculars).

At this point, I contact Lidl Italy to see if and when they plan to sell these binoculars here.

Hoping that some German friend spend his holidays in my land...

I thank you anyway, and I send you many greetings!

 

[Andreas-TAL]

Hello Gianni!
Hope you are successful with your Lidl apply in Italy. I red a little bit about the bino in German forums - and seem´s to be quite good (for the price). Some bad comments are concerning problems with (ghost) reflections looking at very luminousity objects like the moon (which doesn´t allow a sharp view) and the rather small field of view provided at high magnifications. Ok - it´s price is 20€ - not 200€ ...
So, have a nice time and "Clear Skies" - almost better than in Germany. We had two days "summer" and yet thunderstorms are coming, finishing this first really very, very long summer" period. Feel free to contact me with an PM, if you need some help anyway.
Ognie bene, Andreas

 

[giagiox]

Hello Andreas, in effect the bino (for that price) is good especially for a newbie, but for now would be fine for me...

I thank you again for your time and I sincerely hope "ogni bene" too you ;-)

Gianni